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WikiBlogIntegration

What is there to wiki/blog integration?

Andrew has some things to say, but I'm not sure what the gist of it is.

Some other combined wiki-blogs:

Thoughts:
Wikis and Blogs don't really go together. As I've said here, they take a different approach to organizing information. The URLs are different -- weblog posts should have dates in the URL, while wikis shouldn't. Wiki pages have revisions while weblog entries don't. The only way they'd go together is if you allow easy linking between your weblog posts and your wiki pages, and if, like here, your home page lists wiki pages that have recently been changed along with new weblog posts. Some CMS's treat everything like wiki pages and weblog pages are a specialization, where each day's or each post's url is in a special format, and then the wiki can do special things by searching on the URL. I'm not totally sure whether that's the best idea, but the generality of it is neat.

http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb2.pl?WikiLog
http://www.decafbad.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/WeblogWithWiki

Ok, here's my final opinion on the matter. Weblogs and wikis are different things: they have different information models, have different editing privilages (public (wiki) vs private (weblog)), have revisions (wiki) or not (weblog), are permanent (wiki pages) or are transient (weblog posts). The only ways I see them being integrated is the way SnipSnap, etc. do it by building weblog software on top of wiki software by having page names be in a certain format, etc., OR simply by cross-posting a "pages changed today" list to a weblog entry per day. Which is what many sites with weblogs and wikis seem to do.

More thoughts here and here.


(JarFil)
I don't think weblogs and wikis are so different.

  • I would like to have wiki word-links inside weblog posts, and sometimes I think of additions to past weblog entries, so it would be fine to have a "recent posts" and a "recent updates" index.
  • Some weblog entries turn to be more interesting that it would look like at first sigt. Instead of copying to new wiki pages, it would be great to just link to them in the proper sections inside wiki. Thus not affecting the fact that they originally were weblog entries and still being accessible from the weblog index, both the original version and the last updated one, even if some of the updates could appear as weblog entries themselves.
  • The multi-category and backlink features would be great for a weblog entry.
  • It's not the same as RecentEdits. You could be interested in have just pages CategoryWeblog presented as a weblog, and none more.
  • Privileges are simmilar for both. Wiki pages can be locked (made private) while weblog entries get comments (half public). A good integration would be to add comments to wiki pages. The fact that I have to write this here is the proof Smiley winking

I think wiki is THE way to go with page creation, and weblog is just a way of data extraction (kind of an index).


Here's a page along the same lines as this one: http://ferret.bemidjistate.edu/~morgan/cgi-bin/blogsandwiki.pl?WikiAndBlog

I like it.


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