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James (http://www.ordinary-life.net) wrote:
anonymous wrote:
Looters Stole 6,000 Artifacts
By Guy Gugliotta
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, June 21, 2003; Page A16
U.S. and Iraqi officials have confirmed the theft of at least 6,000 artifacts from Iraq's National Museum of Antiquities during a prolonged looting spree as U.S. forces entered Baghdad two months ago, a leading archaeologist said yesterday.
University of Chicago archaeologist McGuire Gibson said the U.S. Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement told him June 13 that the official count of missing items had reached 6,000 and was climbing as museum and Customs investigators proceeded with an inventory of three looted storerooms.
The June 13 total was double the number of stolen items reported by Customs a week earlier, and Gibson suggested the final tally could be "far, far worse." Customs could not immediately obtain an updated report, a spokesman said.
The mid-June count was the latest in a confusing chain of seemingly contradictory estimates of losses at the museum, the principal repository of artifacts from thousands of Iraqi archaeological sites documenting human history from the dawn of civilization 7,000 years ago to the pinnacle of medieval Islam.
Keith (http://www.keithdevens.com/) wrote:
No one cares about this shit. Fuckers.
anonymous wrote:
Actually a great many people care about "this shit".
Example:
http://www.pcpafg.org/news/Afghan_News/y...struction_of_all_Afghan_statues.shtml
I think the difference is the US wasn't involved in these situations, so it didn't bear any scrutiny when these things occurred.
Are you saying that we bear no responsibility for the chaos in Iraq?
Keith (http://www.keithdevens.com/) wrote:
Well, I was referring specifically to the temple mount, where we lost and are losing who knows what. But that's fine. My whole argument all along was that this was blown way out of proportion, and largely made a big deal out of by people who dearly wanted to have something to hold against America.
Sure, even though it was an inside job and people had keys to the place, and even though many things were removed before we even got there, ande even though they allegedly had snipers hanging around the building[1], sure we probably could have done a little more to protect the artifacts.
[1] Though I'm not completely sure if that's been verified, but I've heard it from multiple sources.
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Doesn't prove a thing, I can find a dozen articles that disagree with that. It all depends on who you believe. I did read a few later on that revealed a good deal of the artifacts are being returned, some by people who removed them to protect them. They didn't want to inform US troops because they didn't trust them, which is a rather sad state of affairs. Like I stated originally, the truth is always somewhere in between the opinion of both sides.
Things where still allowed to be looted, a small percentage of history is still gone. Just as the 2000-3000 innocent deaths where a small percentage. The world is still a little poorer for it, the military still didn't defend what was still in the museums, or place a priority on it.
The "Fuck everyone" was very mature btw.